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Frank
Jul 10, 2003 17:35:05 GMT   

My one week old 2215 is experiencing the following problems:

- Can NOT wake itself up for scheduled backups, or for alarms. Instead, these happen when the unit is powered on after the scheduled time has past.

- Often the unit immediately (3-5 seconds) powers off after a manual power on

These problems are especially bad when they all happen at once, e.g.: backup scheduled for 3AM, meeting reminder set for 7:30AM, 2215 manually turned on at 8AM during said meeting to take some notes, whereon it immediately sounds the alarm, initiates a backup, and powers down -- only to display a completely garbled screen on power-up, thus requiring a reset. Note that these antics DO NOT LOOK GOOD TO OTHERS PRESENT AT THE MEETING.....

This is my first HP product, and I am a bit dismayed to find that I can't seem to find out how to get waranty service. (Also included in the 2215 packaging was a pitch for "care pack" coverage, but I haven't been able to find out how to sign up for those deals, either.)

I also understand from reading other internet sites that these problems are fairly common with the 2215 -- but is there a solution????!

Any advice/pointers/fixes/SOLUTIONS *greatly* appreciated!

Thanks,
-frank
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Mark Cornell Expert in this area
Jul 10, 2003 18:12:06 GMT    Unassigned

I understand your frustration Frank. This is the third iPAQ that I've purchased, and still own. Starting with the 3870 I experienced the intermittent failures with alarm waking the unit up. It continued with the 5450 unit, and I was really hoping it was resolved in the newest version, my new 2215.

I had hoped the new version of the operating system would correct the issues, but like you, I am quite disappointed these issues still exist.

Probably should have returned the new one, but I like it's form factor so much.

The only solution that has ever been presented to try and address the alarm failure is to go into the clock settings and change the time zone to something else, hit okay, then change it back to what it was, hit okay. That seems to reset something with the alarm-keeping system and can often provide some temporary resolution...but it will come back.

Mark
Ronald This member has accumulated 750 or more points
Jul 10, 2003 18:17:57 GMT    Unassigned

You don't need to register for standard warranty, so just call hp for warranty service.
You can find phone numbers on the hp website of your country.

As for carepacks, i'd contact your reseller. They should know about the carepacks available for your product and be able to sell you a carepack.
Ivo Beckers
Jul 10, 2003 20:21:35 GMT    Unassigned

My new 2215 has the "feature" of spontanious starting a dial up connection with my mobile phone?!

And I'd like to get rid of the horizontal scroll bar in PIE, but that's probably a Microsoft thing. I tried the "fit to screen" setting, but that gives problem when reloading the page (automatically shrinks a Flash movie).
Frank
Jul 10, 2003 20:55:50 GMT    N/A: Question Author

Well, in the hour since I posted my troubles here, my 2215 has learned a new bad trick: as with the previous reply, my 2215 now wants to connect to *something* every half hour or so. As I don't have any connections set up, the result is that it keeps popping up a dialog to the effect of "no connections defined, and no modem found"....... This is supremely anoying, to say the least.

I don't mind when new technology has a few bugs, I pretty much expect it. BUT, the bugs shouldn't be glaringly obvious problems that cause major headaches -- they should be hard to find obscure issues that are very difficult to reproduce!!! ESPECIALLY in a device aimed at CONSUMERS! (Note to HP QA people: think, "would my mom use something like this?")

-frank
Ivo Beckers
Jul 10, 2003 21:00:27 GMT    Unassigned

Frank, I have the same pop-up thing. Can some HP/MS person please remove this feature!!
Andrew Clark
Jul 11, 2003 20:50:22 GMT    Unassigned

Another one with regular unwanted attempts to connect. Wondering what this does to battery life as it appears to fall quickly even when Ipaq not in use.

Also got the 'will not switch on without soft reset' problem if left off for a while.

An HP response would be welcome
Charles
Jul 12, 2003 04:47:51 GMT    Unassigned

I have the 2215 as well and so far have not had the problems described above. I have not tried to do scheduled backups however. One problem I have had was not being able to get a Blue Tooth USB key to communicate with the 2215. I tried for several hours. I boiled it down to an imcompatability with the Blue Tooth device and Pocket PC 2003.
Dick Henze
Jul 15, 2003 00:29:33 GMT    Unassigned

Frank and others,

A little over a week on a 2215 with the following observations in case they help.

I am currently not using bluetooth or any other wireless sync. Also, I have not configured any scheduled backups.

Alarms (notifications) work as I expect, that is, if the unit is off, it powers up and gives off the alarm signal. So your issues may be related to the combined configuration of notifications & backup. (I agree its perfectly reasonable to expect and use these together, just offering my experience FWIW). I find it a challenge to easily navigate the myriad of configuration options to know that there is not some option you must enable to have the unit power on for these.

Regarding the other reply that mentioned the unit trying to establish a connection every 30 minutes, I had a similar experience (on a shorter 5 minute time period), which I tracked down to an option setting in synchronize. There is a setting for wireless synchronization (a "mobility" tab in the menu) where you set the time period (i.e. 30 minutes, 5 minutes, etc.), and a button in the regular options screen that says "in peak times, use the mobility setting". When this box was checked, it then tried to sync every 5 minutes (the setting I had entered), and trying to establish the connection was associated with that.

Anyway, I'm reasonably satisfied so far, a few quirks I'm still trying to learn or work through.

Good Luck,
Dick
John Roman
Jul 17, 2003 16:35:51 GMT    Unassigned

Frank (and others with similar problems)

My problems with the 2215 are similar but different. My 2215 will lockup and require a soft reset to be able to turn it off or continue using it. Conversely, other times it will not turn on when I push the power button and in that case it also requires a soft reset to re-enable the power button.

It also does not always power on when an alarm goes off. I can hear the alarm, but I have to manually turn on the unit to see what the alarm is for.

After talking to Tech Support, I did a "hard reset" and did not reinstall any 3rd party software. The same problems came back. I returned my original 2215 to Office Depot for a new 2215. Thought that solved the problem, but I'm having the same problems with the replacement.

I guess I'll return this one to the factory for a no charge fix. Their policy is really good. HP will send you a mailer to return the unit and will send it back after service - all at no charge.

One last thought to tech types who might understand this better than me. The ROM version of my slightly older h1910 is 1.07 and yet the ROM version of my brand new h2215 is 1.00! Could this older ROM with the newer O/S be the cause of some of the problems.

Hope 'HP' reads these messages.

Good luck to all!

John R.
Russ Smith Expert in this area ???en.forums.text.=beamingAlt???
Jul 21, 2003 14:24:15 GMT    Unassigned Attachement is 5897.jpg 

Frank and all,
I found this on another forum. Apparently, there's a bug in the interaction of timed backups and alarms that causes two different problems: First, alarms may not sound because the iPAQ shuts itself off before it can happen. Second, it will sometimes power itself down 10 seconds after you power it on.

The work-around to the problem is [sigh] not to use the timed backup or battery monitor feature on the iPAQ backup software until HP fixes it. (see the attachement for the specific options I'm referring to)
Dennis S
Jul 25, 2003 20:19:22 GMT    Unassigned

There is a patch/fix available now at http://www.spritesoftware.com regarding iPAQ Backup problem. It works on my 2215!
Russ Smith Expert in this area ???en.forums.text.=beamingAlt???
Jul 25, 2003 20:59:19 GMT    Unassigned

...and here's another possible fix from Xscale.de:
http://www.xscale.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=372

Use Google to translate it if you don't read Deutsche.

Essentially, the DB_notify_events database (which, incidentally, stores alarm-type events) is incorrectly extended by a few duplicate entries every time you do a soft-reset (!!!) Not only do these duplicate entries take up space, they also cause problems down the line. After about 30 soft-resets, it may take up to a minute to re-boot the iPAQ and it might hang entirely. After about 50 soft-resets, ActiveSync may cease to function.

The solution (for now) is to download this little (6.5MB) utility which will erase those erroneous entries every time you do a reset. Download the file and place it in the /Windows/autostart folder on your iPAQ. It does it's job very quickly. You'll probably not notice it's there except it will prevent the above disasters.

Hopefully, now that HP is aware of the problem (not through this forum, mind you. I've sent a note to HP directly), they'll be able to issue an official patch and work this (and the Sprite Software patch) into an upcoming ROM update.
Russ Smith Expert in this area ???en.forums.text.=beamingAlt???
Jul 25, 2003 21:14:22 GMT    Unassigned

oops. The correct name of the folder where the little utility above needs to reside (in English ROMs) is /Windows/Startup
Joel Weeks
Sep 9, 2003 03:09:29 GMT    Unassigned

My IPAQ 2215 (2-weeks old) is doing all of these nasty things, now it won't sych or even power up w/o a reset.
Roy Peterson
Sep 29, 2003 12:12:11 GMT    Unassigned

I have a 2215 about 3 weeks old. Regret buying it! HP's support is worse. HP....never again. Back to Dell I go. $400 lesson in life !!!!

* post edited by HP forum moderator to change a potentially offensive word.
James Allman
Oct 7, 2003 14:20:19 GMT    Unassigned

Funny you'd go to Dell... Yeeccchh, they've never been more than a name brand clone company in my opinion, and lack the real depth that HP or Compaq can provide if you pay attention and ensure you're talking to the right support people.

I love the H2210 and think it's a fabulous product. Haven't had any issues with it.
Eric Cheung
Oct 8, 2003 02:23:18 GMT    Unassigned

To those who's iPAQ intermittently says cannot make Internet connection, I'd like to share my experience. My iPAQ 2210 used to do that also, it then turned out to be due to my inbox's attempt to check/retrieve mails after I configured a POP account in inbox. If you do have POP account set up in inbox, perhaps disabling the periodic mail check can stop the automatic connection attempt. Hope that helps.
 
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