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Niels Vejrup Pedersen Expert in this area This member has accumulated 250 or more points
Jun 1, 2009 19:48:52 GMT   

Hi,

In vSphere its possible for manufactures to add their own multipathing drivers, like we know from the MPIO DSM to windows boxes.

It's always been a pain to manually balance paths in vmware - so this will hopefully work this issue out.

I've seen other vendors announce support for these things to vSphere, but nothing from HP.. e.g EMC PowerPath for vSphere.

Do anyone have some information they could share about what HP intends to supply for vSphere as a upgrade to the standard Native MultiPathing software.

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Patrick Terlisten This member has accumulated 2500 or more points
Jun 1, 2009 20:36:47 GMT  10 pts

Hello,

AFAIK is there nothing like MPIO planned. PowerPath is a "present" to VMware, an EMC division. Which type of multipathing policy do you use?

Best regards,
Patrick
Niels Vejrup Pedersen Expert in this area This member has accumulated 250 or more points
Jun 3, 2009 18:00:07 GMT    N/A: Question Author

Hi Patrick,

We are currently using the NMP mode.

But with no intelligence in the driver we are having a hard time doing manual path selection on the environments.
Patrick Terlisten This member has accumulated 2500 or more points
Jun 4, 2009 06:02:59 GMT    Unassigned

Hello Niels,

I can only repeat: AFAIK is nothing planned, so we all need to load-balance the path ourself. :(

Best regards,
Patrick
shIVinator. Expert in this area
Jun 4, 2009 12:26:56 GMT  10 pts Attachement is 330326.txt 

I feel your pain. Balancing LUNs across all paths is very tedious. The easiest way that I have to do it is to set the path while you SSH to the ESX server.

This command will set the path:
esxcfg-mpath --preferred --lun=vmhba2:0:1 --path=vmhba3:0:3

To find out what paths are available:
esxcfg-mpath -l

To see your LUNs:
esxcfg-vmhbadevs

I have attached a doc that I used for one of my clusters. Once you create a file like this, save it as a .sh and then run it on all of your ESX servers in the cluster.

Make sure you rescan the HBAs after:
esxcfg-rescan vmhba2

Duane
Niels Vejrup Pedersen Expert in this area This member has accumulated 250 or more points
Jun 24, 2009 12:35:48 GMT    N/A: Question Author

Update:

I spoke to some EVA guys at technology forum in vegas, and to my knowledge there is a psp plugin in the beta stages for the EVA's.

I'm looking forward to that!

Regards,
Patrick Terlisten This member has accumulated 2500 or more points
Jun 24, 2009 16:54:10 GMT    Unassigned

Hello,

mmmhh... that would be nice.

Best regards,
Patrick
Uwe Zessin This member has accumulated 20000 or more points
Jun 24, 2009 17:33:57 GMT    Unassigned

What (real) advantages does PowerPath/VE give over the native out-of-the-box capabilities?
Patrick Terlisten This member has accumulated 2500 or more points
Jun 24, 2009 21:25:59 GMT    Unassigned

Hello,

I think most of the users want an automatic load balancing over all available paths. Now they must load balance it manual.

And btw: VMware is an EMC division... THATS the main cause why powerpath is supported.

Best regards,
Patrick
Uwe Zessin This member has accumulated 20000 or more points
Jun 25, 2009 04:55:57 GMT    Unassigned

I've been in a presentation yesterday and the speaker just turned on round-robin through the VI-Client. ESX4 had already recognized the EVA as an ALUA array. We ran out of time, but he assured us that ESX4 would switch to and balance on the "performance optiomized" paths for a virtual disks within a few minutes.

Of course, EMC was mentioned that the recomendation from them to switch of PP/VE when the smallest sign of a problem was visible.
Patrick Terlisten This member has accumulated 2500 or more points
Jun 25, 2009 05:46:34 GMT    Unassigned

Hello,

Round-Robin?! It was always included in VI3, but marked as "experimental". In this case RR is maybe an option.

Best regards,
Patrick
Uwe Zessin This member has accumulated 20000 or more points
Jun 25, 2009 05:51:47 GMT    Unassigned

What do you mean by "maybe"?
Do you want RR across non-optimized paths, too?

I have not mentioned above, but it is clear that you now should distribute your virtual disks across the controllers from CV-EVA and all ESX4 servers will honor it - no more unexpected ownership transfers due to a wrong settings on one server.
DDas
Jul 9, 2009 19:19:16 GMT    Unassigned

PowerPath/VE supports the EVA 8000 series as well as the active/active EVA 3000/5000.
Davy Oriem
Nov 6, 2009 15:19:47 GMT    Unassigned

Is there now any plugin coming for the EVA from HP? When will HP publish best practices for Vsphere, as they did for esx 3.5
mujzeptu
Nov 6, 2009 21:31:25 GMT    Unassigned

Bumped and agreed.
 
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